MPs openly criticising Andrew reflects shift in tradition
The MPs in the chamber did not hold back.
The language was stark.
MPs questioned Andrew's appointment and what oversight existed during his decade-long tenure, and if lessons had been learned following allegations he shared sensitive information with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Andrew has not responded to the BBC's requests for comment on specific allegations that have emerged after the US release of files in January related to Epstein. He has previously denied any wrongdoing in relation to the late financier.
The fact that this debate happened at all is in itself significant.
It reflects the heat of the Andrew story and how conventions are shifting with the public mood.
That has generally been treated more as guidance than an official ban on discussing or criticising the Royal Family in Parliament. Decisions on royals being talked about in Parliament have been managed by the Speaker of the House, with a nod to convention and historical precedent.
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